Post by thevon on Feb 22, 2009 21:05:54 GMT 10
This seems the best thread for stuff about moldie repairs. This is hacked from a post I put on RCG, which is worth putting here also.
Maybe you guys are onto this, but today I tried some spray paint made up by the local auto paint supplier, and it is good!
Previously, to match the colours on the Nemesis, I went to Super Cheap and picked out touch-up paints (rattle cans) off the shelf – the one with the lid of the closest colour. Plus some primer – initially I tried white primer, but the grey works better. The final result is OK, but you seem to need a lot of coats of paint to get a reasonably solid colour. Another problem is that the paint doesn’t’ seem to stick down terribly well. Sometimes pulling up a bit of sticky tape, or a light scratch, will lift paint.
I asked our panelbeater how much it would cost to get him to spray a wing for me. Around $250 was the quote!!! It’s just not worth them doing small jobs like that. But I asked him for some advice - are there any rattle can paints that spray on better and stick down better than others?? He instantly perked up and said “Yes!!” in an animated fashion; “K&H spray paints. Peninsula Paint Supplies have it – go and see them”. So when I had to fix some extensive damage to my Fazer, I did.
It turns out to be a shop that only sells automotive paints. The paint man really didn’t seem to be impressed about helping a guy with a toy plane wing to pick colours, treating me with barely suppressed contempt. I asked whether I could get a can of spray colour to match the red. He fobbed me off, saying it was a minimum order of 6 cans for a special colour match. As I prepared to excuse myself he muttered “unless you can pick it from a colour chart and we can make it up … “. What colour chart??? I asked, and he pulled out a bunch of colour swatches which seemed to have hundreds of colours!
He said that if I chose a colour from the swatches he could mix it in a few minutes. But I’d need a spray gun, wouldn’t I?? No, he’d actually mix it in a spray can on the spot!!
There were 4 reds on the colour fans that looked indistinguishable from the Fazer’s red but between us we looked at it from various angles & decided on one. Then at the last minute he asked “enamel or acrylic?” and after some discussion that only seemed to annoy him more, we opted for acrylic. A few minutes later, he banged a new spray can down on the counter. It has a label on it with the colour code like a house paint, so you can re-order the same code if you need more.
For the Fazer’s white I took a gamble and chose the off-the-shelf K&H white gloss which was only $8 for a big can.
I’m excited because both colours were a perfect (and I mean perfect) match. And the paint seems really great to use compared to the Supa Cheap (Holts) stuff. Firstly it’s such a solid colour! Particularly the red – it is so dense that you can’t see anything through the first coat, whereas the other stuff needed a lot of coats. Secondly it seems to spread on really nicely – doesn’t want to run or splatter.
Price wise the colour matched can was $22, but seriously you use so much less of it that it’s much cheaper to use than the other stuff. I reckon you’d easily get twice the coverage. And if you can use an off the shelf colour (our shop only stocks white & black but I think they have other basic colours available) it is dirt cheap – the tins are bigger and only $8. I’d also recommend using their grey primer too. If you do a lot of painting, get a 4L tin of Prepsol (about $16) which is a solvent for wiping the surface or between coats – the man was insistent that the smallest amount of oil or other contaminants (even from touching the surface) can stop the paint bonding properly.
So next time you need to get a colour match for a moldie, ring around and see if you can find an auto paint supplier that mixes up cans of K&H paint on the spot.
Maybe you guys are onto this, but today I tried some spray paint made up by the local auto paint supplier, and it is good!
Previously, to match the colours on the Nemesis, I went to Super Cheap and picked out touch-up paints (rattle cans) off the shelf – the one with the lid of the closest colour. Plus some primer – initially I tried white primer, but the grey works better. The final result is OK, but you seem to need a lot of coats of paint to get a reasonably solid colour. Another problem is that the paint doesn’t’ seem to stick down terribly well. Sometimes pulling up a bit of sticky tape, or a light scratch, will lift paint.
I asked our panelbeater how much it would cost to get him to spray a wing for me. Around $250 was the quote!!! It’s just not worth them doing small jobs like that. But I asked him for some advice - are there any rattle can paints that spray on better and stick down better than others?? He instantly perked up and said “Yes!!” in an animated fashion; “K&H spray paints. Peninsula Paint Supplies have it – go and see them”. So when I had to fix some extensive damage to my Fazer, I did.
It turns out to be a shop that only sells automotive paints. The paint man really didn’t seem to be impressed about helping a guy with a toy plane wing to pick colours, treating me with barely suppressed contempt. I asked whether I could get a can of spray colour to match the red. He fobbed me off, saying it was a minimum order of 6 cans for a special colour match. As I prepared to excuse myself he muttered “unless you can pick it from a colour chart and we can make it up … “. What colour chart??? I asked, and he pulled out a bunch of colour swatches which seemed to have hundreds of colours!
He said that if I chose a colour from the swatches he could mix it in a few minutes. But I’d need a spray gun, wouldn’t I?? No, he’d actually mix it in a spray can on the spot!!
There were 4 reds on the colour fans that looked indistinguishable from the Fazer’s red but between us we looked at it from various angles & decided on one. Then at the last minute he asked “enamel or acrylic?” and after some discussion that only seemed to annoy him more, we opted for acrylic. A few minutes later, he banged a new spray can down on the counter. It has a label on it with the colour code like a house paint, so you can re-order the same code if you need more.
For the Fazer’s white I took a gamble and chose the off-the-shelf K&H white gloss which was only $8 for a big can.
I’m excited because both colours were a perfect (and I mean perfect) match. And the paint seems really great to use compared to the Supa Cheap (Holts) stuff. Firstly it’s such a solid colour! Particularly the red – it is so dense that you can’t see anything through the first coat, whereas the other stuff needed a lot of coats. Secondly it seems to spread on really nicely – doesn’t want to run or splatter.
Price wise the colour matched can was $22, but seriously you use so much less of it that it’s much cheaper to use than the other stuff. I reckon you’d easily get twice the coverage. And if you can use an off the shelf colour (our shop only stocks white & black but I think they have other basic colours available) it is dirt cheap – the tins are bigger and only $8. I’d also recommend using their grey primer too. If you do a lot of painting, get a 4L tin of Prepsol (about $16) which is a solvent for wiping the surface or between coats – the man was insistent that the smallest amount of oil or other contaminants (even from touching the surface) can stop the paint bonding properly.
So next time you need to get a colour match for a moldie, ring around and see if you can find an auto paint supplier that mixes up cans of K&H paint on the spot.