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Post by ding on Mar 4, 2008 22:31:13 GMT 10
I wouldn't buy a thingypit because I'd hate to hang around with people that played with their thingypit while flying   What brands can we talk about? Multiplex Futaba Hitec JR Spektrum jr 10sx Dammit I've got no idea what a thingypit is  |
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Post by sean on Mar 4, 2008 23:14:52 GMT 10
Hehe, the Thingypit is the Multiplex C0ckpit SX...
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Post by Vanders on Mar 4, 2008 23:25:24 GMT 10
I wouldn't buy a thingypit because I'd hate to hang around with people that played with their thingypit while flying What brands can we talk about? Multiplex Futaba Hitec JR Spektrum jr 10sx Dammit I've got no idea what a thingypit is Man that cracked me up!!!!!! |
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Post by thevon on Mar 5, 2008 6:39:39 GMT 10
I was watching this F3 Build Clinic DVD last night and the guy talked about radio programming for a bit. Mostly to say that you should set up the program and connect it all up before installling gear. But he also was saying that for more advanced sailplane stuff, it was a huge advantage to have a radio with at least 3 well programmed "flight modes" that can be switched, so you can optimise everything for, eg, climb, aerobatics, diving, DS, landing approach, landing final, or whatever. The JR DSX9 has 5 flight modes for gliders.
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Post by ding on Mar 5, 2008 6:48:24 GMT 10
Flightmodes are common amongst F3A too as it can give the plane multiple distinct characters. Remember trying to get your plane to snaproll? That requires more control throws than you had and could use to fly it. What about flick a switch and away you go? My 10 SX had a snaproll button to allow you to program higher throws for that even with little switches for direction. In practice a bit of a gimmick!
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Post by skyboyken on Mar 5, 2008 20:59:15 GMT 10
Nice one Ding  . Sean, latency is a fancy word for 'delay between moving stick and having plane respond'. I know you know this, I'm saying it here simply to be as clear as possible. I seriously doubt it is an issue with any of the current equipment. Correct me if I 'm wrong but wasn't Chris Callow flying a JR 2.4GHz radio the day you and Andrew flew with him? If you are seriously considering a 9Xv2, I seriously recommend you compare it to the new Futaba 12FGA. The Futaba has 8 flight modes which is what top F3B competitors say they need, plus my research says it has even better programming and mixing capabilities than the 9Xv2 as well as greater ease of use, and the ability to assign receiver channels so you can program any aircraft (on 36MHz) without changing receiver plugs around, and it also has 36MHz and 2.4GHz capability plus a bunch of other neat stuff. As much as it pains me, with my Multiplex bias, to say this, the 12FGA is the Tx I would choose over the 9Xv2 and the Royal Evo 9 or 12, both of which are 3 years old at least. It shows the benefit of progress and it has very nearly all the capability of the top of the line Futaba 14 channel Tx (at over $3,000) for around $1,200 - $1,300 including a 12 channel synth Rx I believe. BTW, just to get a Multiplex plug in, the co-ckpit SX has 3 flight modes which is unheard of for a 7 channel Tx and particularly for less than $400 including a 7 channel Synth Receiver. There! I feel better now!! |
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Post by sean on Mar 5, 2008 22:13:27 GMT 10
Hey Ken, the 12FGA does sound very good from what you say, but it's way over my budget. The 9X II can be had for half that price! Yeah, Chris Callow had a JR set with a 2.4 module... not sure which set he had, it looked like the 9X but most of the JR sets above the 9X look the same (at least to me  ). Sean. |
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Post by atmosteve on Mar 6, 2008 1:51:33 GMT 10
Have been trying to put some money aside for a new Tx also, the JR max 66 kind of runs out of DP options very quick on the slope. The JR X-2720 could fit the bill, I'm no longer interested in competition flying so this is likely all I'll ever need in a Tx, probably all I'd need even if i were wanting to compete!
I am a very firm believer in keeping things as simple as possible.
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Post by Vanders on Mar 7, 2008 0:05:43 GMT 10
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Post by sean on Mar 7, 2008 11:25:50 GMT 10
That looks like a bargain! As long as the price doesn't go up too much more. I think the 9303 and 9X II are the same but you'd need to do some research to be sure.
You could probably buy the 2.4 module for less in the US too.
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Post by ding on Mar 7, 2008 19:20:20 GMT 10
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Post by skyboyken on Mar 7, 2008 20:32:49 GMT 10
Hi Vanders, the 9303 is the same as the 9Xv2. As to the 3rd party 2.4GHz modules I have no clue as to whether there are any performance or reliability issues or not. One thing is certain though, every brand of 2.4GHz setup is unique, once you buy one you're stuck with only that brand of receiver from then on. Atmosteve, I'm fairly certain the 2720 won't do 4 servo wings (it only has aircarft and heli modes I'm pretty sure), so you would forever be trying to fudge things to get crow braking to work. Crow is a lifesaver for us slope flyers. It allows you to safely land crunchies in the kind of small landing areas we typically get at our slopes. Is there any reason you wouldn't consider another brand of Tx at a similar price if it had better glider features? Sean, I figure that when you buy a top of the line Tx like the 9X or 12FGA you'll have it for a long time and it needs to meet all your future requirements, some of which you may not know about yet. In that context I suggest that $729 for the 9Xv2 transmitter only vs approx $1,250 for the 12FGA with a 12 channel Rx is a reasonable comparison to consider. There's really only a couple of hundred dollars between the Tx'es and you're getting more capability and more usability from day one. Save for just a little longer and enjoy the benefits for years and years - you know how the story goes . Ken. |
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Post by atmosteve on Mar 7, 2008 21:55:05 GMT 10
Hi Vanders, Atmosteve, I'm fairly certain the 2720 won't do 4 servo wings (it only has aircarft and heli modes I'm pretty sure), so you would forever be trying to fudge things to get crow braking to work. Crow is a lifesaver for us slope flyers. It allows you to safely land crunchies in the kind of small landing areas we typically get at our slopes. Is there any reason you wouldn't consider another brand of Tx at a similar price if it had better glider features? Hi Ken, well, no there hasn't been reason for me not considering other makes, and i have in that price range, fact is I have only owned one JR radio set! Prior to that it was always Sanwa and Futaba gear, but that was some time past, older school when we flew more with our sticks and control component engineering skills, air brakes and all, not so much through our Tx DP multi-mess capabilities. I think in retrospect that i might have been trying to illustrate a subtle point that was geared towards the concept covering flight basics first, which is probably a bit futile considering the times we live in lol, no-one wants to go through the ropes these days, and thats understandable enough because we all want a very efficient outcome for our efforts. |
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Post by atmosteve on Mar 7, 2008 22:04:15 GMT 10
Sorry, forgot to say, for the average flyer at least, it could be much more practical and economically viable for us to upgrade our $$$ middle of the road gear every 3-5 years than expect our latest and greatest $$$$ to see us through many years into the future. Mostly because of wear and tear, and the constant evolution of affordable new technology anyway.
But each to their own its true, and respected, horses for courses.
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Post by Vanders on Mar 8, 2008 0:28:04 GMT 10
Hi Vanders, the 9303 is the same as the 9Xv2. As to the 3rd party 2.4GHz modules I have no clue as to whether there are any performance or reliability issues or not. One thing is certain though, every brand of 2.4GHz setup is unique, once you buy one you're stuck with only that brand of receiver from then on. Ken. So what your saying Ken is if I went for a Spectrum 2.4 module added onto the JR, I can only use Spectrum Rx's? |
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