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Post by thevon on Oct 16, 2007 23:06:15 GMT 10
I'm sure Simon the owner at Pedwell Rd would give permission, if that's any help. Long way to go, but pretty good chance of good lift if it's anywhere between SSE and NE. If yooz guys decide you want it then I don't mind liaising with him.
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Post by st on Oct 17, 2007 7:20:59 GMT 10
Although lots of people walking by certainly would up the risk, moving such an event to somewhere like pedwell rd certainly wouldn't eliminate it from Gerards point of view. Unless Windsock is happy to get some liability insurance, I think any 'events' are going to have to be member organised and participation at members own risk.....
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Post by ding on Oct 17, 2007 7:46:59 GMT 10
Although lots of people walking by certainly would up the risk, moving such an event to somewhere like pedwell rd certainly wouldn't eliminate it from Gerards point of view. Unless Windsock is happy to get some liability insurance, I think any 'events' are going to have to be member organised and participation at members own risk..... Well, the other option is for you to all become MAAA members. If that were to be the case, then when flying on private property with the owners permission the flyers and the organisers are covered by insurance. I travelled the country and competed and there were never any questions about insurance. No card no fly though. I know some people out there are already members. I think that would be the best solution. Having said that IMHO the risks at somewhere not like SC are very low. Even at SC there have been operations there for some time without incident (perhaps I should clarify by defining incident as damage to property or persons). As said before, I think our operations are of similar risk to a game of cricket or footy with some mates in any park... or flying a kite. The factor that makes this more acute is that we are there a lot.
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Post by st on Oct 17, 2007 8:19:53 GMT 10
[quote author=ding board=general thread=1191106395 I think our operations are of similar risk to a game of cricket or footy with some mates in any park... or flying a kite. The factor that makes this more acute is that we are there a lot. [/quote] I agree. And what Gerard is suggesting is exactly that - mates get togethor and have a game/comp. There isn't a particular person/business sponsering/holding those footy games, just like Gerard does not want to hold/sponser this comp.
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Post by thevon on Oct 17, 2007 18:27:10 GMT 10
Yeah I don't think there's a risk to other people at Pedwell Rd, just to the flyers and families etc. SC is different - lots of passers by, Sunday tourists etc, cars,
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Post by zipper on Oct 17, 2007 22:21:51 GMT 10
There was a lot of discussion about on RCGroups about the flying at unregistered sites and insurance. It looks like some home contents insurance policy's will cover you for RC model aircraft. www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749123Glenn Off The Edge Sailplanes
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Post by ding on Oct 18, 2007 4:59:32 GMT 10
There was a lot of discussion about on RCGroups about the flying at unregistered sites and insurance. It looks like some home contents insurance policy's will cover you for RC model aircraft. www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749123Glenn Off The Edge Sailplanes I'd be dubious about that. Never in my 23 years of flying have I heard about people claiming their planes after a crash... LOL. At any rate I don't think it's the planes causing the concern in this case.
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Post by windsock on Oct 18, 2007 8:59:21 GMT 10
The problem I that I see with Shorncliffe is that we could run week in week out without any problems, which I think we all agree on - it's just the 'what if'. My biggest concern isn't actually hitting someone , but rather setting off a freak accident involving passing cars (chain reaction). In my earlier days at Shorncliffe I hit a moving car at some speed . My heart sunk as the car slammed on the breaks! . I thought oh S**t, have I caused damage, this guy isn't going to be happy. Guess what, to my sock they apologised for hitting my plane . I was so lucky for the nice nature of the man and his wife (true story). What I'm getting at, is sure the planes are soft and won't cause to much damage, but as planes keep hitting the road (which can happen to anyone) the odds increase. The possibility of an in-experience driver taking sudden action to avoid a 48 inch flying object and hitting another oncoming car, parked car or person isn't hard to picture in your mind. It may never happen, but the possibilities are increased with the amount of weekend traffic, number of by people walking past, increase of people flying, more parked cars, the mixture is there. All you have to wait for is bad timing and bad luck. About a month ago there was a serious 3 car crash on my road when someone was trying to avoid a dog crossing the road, it was an unlikely event, a freak accident but unfortunately people were hospitalised. It was bad timing and bad luck that the three cars and dog meet at the same time.
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Post by jase on Oct 18, 2007 9:51:00 GMT 10
lets get some council barriers and block off the road... kinda like a fast and the furious thing. but we are racing planes instead
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Post by sean on Oct 18, 2007 11:27:40 GMT 10
Causing a car crash is quite possible. I think I nearly indirectly caused an accident flying once. I was flying next to a main road, near my house when I heard screeching tyres behind. I looked around to see a car narrowly miss running up the backside of the car in front. I suspect the driver had been watching my plane instead of the road and the car in front had braked when they weren't looking. Of course this is 100% the car driver's fault but you never know these days.
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Post by thevon on Oct 18, 2007 14:14:14 GMT 10
Gerard, I agree - it's a real risk that flying could upset someone. It would only take one or 2 problems where you upset householders or motorists and 1) you could end up in court and 2) we could turn up to find a sign saying that flying models is prohibited. Sad but true. Ashamed to say I'm as bad as anyone and I've been guilty of taking too many risks. We only fly thru the goodwill of others and we need to do everything we can to keep that going. One of the smartest things we could do is buy a block of chocolate and a ThankYou card and give to each of the houses at SC!
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Post by windsock on Oct 18, 2007 14:26:34 GMT 10
Causing a car crash is quite possible. I think I nearly indirectly caused an accident flying once. I was flying next to a main road, near my house when I heard screeching tyres behind. I looked around to see a car narrowly miss running up the backside of the car in front. I suspect the driver had been watching my plane instead of the road and the car in front had braked when they weren't looking. Of course this is 100% the car driver's fault but you never know these days. That has happened once or twice to me at Woody Pt. The problem there is people see you at the last minute and sudden stop. With the increase traffic at Woody Pt people are always pulling over to have a look and doing u-turns.
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Post by ding on Oct 18, 2007 19:48:21 GMT 10
About a month ago there was a serious 3 car crash on my road when someone was trying to avoid a dog crossing the road, it was an unlikely event, a freak accident but unfortunately people were hospitalised. It was bad timing and bad luck that the three cars and dog meet at the same time. Did they sue the dog? ;D ;D I kind of agree with everyone. I'd love to kick it around with you all at fish and chips Sunday
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Post by st on Oct 19, 2007 8:15:53 GMT 10
Remembered that parent in-laws are visiting this Sun arvo.... Have fun for me too ;D
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Post by glenn on Nov 9, 2007 21:29:40 GMT 10
Hi guys.Persevere and you shall conquer all odds.It took us here in the West many years to get local councils and government departments to recognize our hobby/sport as a genuine group of enthusiasts worth including in proposals which affect the flying sites we use on the coast.We are lucky enough to have them erect platforms with seating for us to fly off.bitumen pathways to stand on, and boardwalks to get there.Go the right way and get the local council on side and the skies the limit.Now foam combat is a State Title Event here, it gets a lot of publicity in the local paper and the pilot numbers are increasing every year, foam seems to be jumping ahead of glass crunchies.One thing I would recommend when flying combat, is wear a hardhat foam still hurts.The rules we have drawn up seem to work great so we are glad you've taken them onboard, you never know Nationals one day.Regards Glenn Southern Slope Soarers.
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